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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://www.millionaireacts.com/517/house-asset-or-liability.html#comment-50424</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 02:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay Costillo: I&#039;m a Chartered Accountant and an Entrepreneur so I hope you find this interesting.

In the best case, Robert Kiyosaki’s way of looking at this is very simple enough to demonstrate a point. That is, assets should work for you not someone else, and you have to consider the liabilities and the cash flow when working out how much that asset contributes to you. Good concept to point out.  

In the worst case he&#039;s an idiot or a scammer pretending he has found something new. A balance sheet puts all Assets and Liabilities together to measure your net worth (Assets - Liabilities) and the profit or loss (change in assets) and cash flow tells you whether they are feeding you or eating you.  It&#039;s a simple calculation. The loan is clearly the liability, not the house. His changing the classifications breaks down in many cases. For example, if you put the house as the liability, how do you account for the loan? The loan gave you $xxxx to pay for the house does that mean it&#039;s an asset? No it&#039;s not.  It&#039;s just nonsense at that level.  It just does not stand up to scrutiny.      

Is a home an asset or a liability? ...well it&#039;s a home and it doesn&#039;t matter. But if you want to treat it as a financial investment, you&#039;ll keep up with inflation/deflation only or lose money on transaction costs and maintenance.  Because despite the market value changing a house itself doesn&#039;t grow or make anything (except for memories).   Generally it&#039;s a bad financial investment to &quot;build real wealth&quot;, but a good hedge against inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay Costillo: I&#8217;m a Chartered Accountant and an Entrepreneur so I hope you find this interesting.</p>
<p>In the best case, Robert Kiyosaki’s way of looking at this is very simple enough to demonstrate a point. That is, assets should work for you not someone else, and you have to consider the liabilities and the cash flow when working out how much that asset contributes to you. Good concept to point out.  </p>
<p>In the worst case he&#8217;s an idiot or a scammer pretending he has found something new. A balance sheet puts all Assets and Liabilities together to measure your net worth (Assets &#8211; Liabilities) and the profit or loss (change in assets) and cash flow tells you whether they are feeding you or eating you.  It&#8217;s a simple calculation. The loan is clearly the liability, not the house. His changing the classifications breaks down in many cases. For example, if you put the house as the liability, how do you account for the loan? The loan gave you $xxxx to pay for the house does that mean it&#8217;s an asset? No it&#8217;s not.  It&#8217;s just nonsense at that level.  It just does not stand up to scrutiny.      </p>
<p>Is a home an asset or a liability? &#8230;well it&#8217;s a home and it doesn&#8217;t matter. But if you want to treat it as a financial investment, you&#8217;ll keep up with inflation/deflation only or lose money on transaction costs and maintenance.  Because despite the market value changing a house itself doesn&#8217;t grow or make anything (except for memories).   Generally it&#8217;s a bad financial investment to &#8220;build real wealth&#8221;, but a good hedge against inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: engineer14</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think house can be either assets or liabilities, depending on how you use or look at it, even it does not literally bring cash to your statement, it can still be an asset in a way that it can lessen your expenses.. ex. if  paying a mortgage for a house is much cheaper than renting..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think house can be either assets or liabilities, depending on how you use or look at it, even it does not literally bring cash to your statement, it can still be an asset in a way that it can lessen your expenses.. ex. if  paying a mortgage for a house is much cheaper than renting..</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrone</title>
		<link>http://www.millionaireacts.com/517/house-asset-or-liability.html#comment-3727</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vincent, your situation is quite hard especially because it involves your relatives. You could buy a house even if you don&#039;t intend to live on it sooner IF AND ONLY IF you intend to rent it out to tenants for passive income. 
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In your case, why did you buy your grandma&#039;s ancestral house? Is it because of its sentimental value to you? Do you have your own family in which you are supporting? If I were in your case, I&#039;ll tell my uncle to find a source of income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vincent, your situation is quite hard especially because it involves your relatives. You could buy a house even if you don&#8217;t intend to live on it sooner IF AND ONLY IF you intend to rent it out to tenants for passive income.<br />
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In your case, why did you buy your grandma&#8217;s ancestral house? Is it because of its sentimental value to you? Do you have your own family in which you are supporting? If I were in your case, I&#8217;ll tell my uncle to find a source of income.</p>
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		<title>By: vincent OFW</title>
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		<dc:creator>vincent OFW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t buy a house of you don&#039;t intend to live on it sooner. i made a mistake of buying my grandma&#039;s ancestral house. her children divided the money among themselves. one of my uncles and his family live on the house with my grandmother since he don&#039;t have a house of his own. now i pay for the bills and other maintenance expenses (the latest was 25k for the roof) because my grandmother doesn&#039;t have a source of income nor does my uncle... bad bad investment.

i couldn&#039;t even tell my uncle to leave!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t buy a house of you don&#8217;t intend to live on it sooner. i made a mistake of buying my grandma&#8217;s ancestral house. her children divided the money among themselves. one of my uncles and his family live on the house with my grandmother since he don&#8217;t have a house of his own. now i pay for the bills and other maintenance expenses (the latest was 25k for the roof) because my grandmother doesn&#8217;t have a source of income nor does my uncle&#8230; bad bad investment.</p>
<p>i couldn&#8217;t even tell my uncle to leave!</p>
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		<title>By: Ledif</title>
		<link>http://www.millionaireacts.com/517/house-asset-or-liability.html#comment-1670</link>
		<dc:creator>Ledif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Kiyosaki just want to teach us on how to be FINANCIALLY LITERATE/SMART. &quot;Asset is anything that flows CASH IN our pockets and a liability is anything that flows CASH OUT of our pockets.&quot; He DOES&quot;NT SAY that NO one would should ever buy a house. He just want us to realize what&#039;s the truth hidden associated with house ownership. 

You can learn more about it when you read his book. He teaches the power of leverage. e.g how to buy a house or build a business with little or zero cash at all.

 And I would believe in his principle because his already a multi-millionaire. He knows that from his experience and he already has proved of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Kiyosaki just want to teach us on how to be FINANCIALLY LITERATE/SMART. &#8220;Asset is anything that flows CASH IN our pockets and a liability is anything that flows CASH OUT of our pockets.&#8221; He DOES&#8221;NT SAY that NO one would should ever buy a house. He just want us to realize what&#8217;s the truth hidden associated with house ownership. </p>
<p>You can learn more about it when you read his book. He teaches the power of leverage. e.g how to buy a house or build a business with little or zero cash at all.</p>
<p> And I would believe in his principle because his already a multi-millionaire. He knows that from his experience and he already has proved of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dinah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dinah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its an asset. argument coming from the heart :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its an asset. argument coming from the heart <img src='http://www.millionaireacts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tyrone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 04:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
		<link>http://www.millionaireacts.com/517/house-asset-or-liability.html#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello FQ bloggers,

Suugest we organize cashflow 101 clubs and promote financial literacy in another level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello FQ bloggers,</p>
<p>Suugest we organize cashflow 101 clubs and promote financial literacy in another level.</p>
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		<title>By: ceblogger</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the house you own is an asset, whether you are living on it or just for an investment (for sale at a future time).  accounting standards wouldn&#039;t classify a house you owned as a liability.  but if owning a house is a burden, like inheriting a large property which you can&#039;t afford to maintain, then sell it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the house you own is an asset, whether you are living on it or just for an investment (for sale at a future time).  accounting standards wouldn&#8217;t classify a house you owned as a liability.  but if owning a house is a burden, like inheriting a large property which you can&#8217;t afford to maintain, then sell it.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great insights from both traineeinvestor and Daniel. Thanks a lot for sharing your views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great insights from both traineeinvestor and Daniel. Thanks a lot for sharing your views.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyrone,

There are some major flaws in this logic. By your logic no one would ever buy a house. How about when a mortgage payment is cheaper than paying rent? By your logic the house is a liability, but at least the house has resale value and you will end up getting some of your money back.

Plus, should never look at where you live as an asset or a liability, or even an investment for that matter. It&#039;s a necessity, you HAVE to pay money to live somewhere. Also, as a general rule of thumb if you are going to be living in a house in order for it to be financially smart you need to be staying there at least 7 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyrone,</p>
<p>There are some major flaws in this logic. By your logic no one would ever buy a house. How about when a mortgage payment is cheaper than paying rent? By your logic the house is a liability, but at least the house has resale value and you will end up getting some of your money back.</p>
<p>Plus, should never look at where you live as an asset or a liability, or even an investment for that matter. It&#8217;s a necessity, you HAVE to pay money to live somewhere. Also, as a general rule of thumb if you are going to be living in a house in order for it to be financially smart you need to be staying there at least 7 years.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi traineeinvestor, good points you raised there. The best part of it was that &quot;Cashflow (positive or negative) may make an asset a good investment or a bad investment but it will not turn an asset into a liability.&quot; 

Thanks a lot for sharing your views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi traineeinvestor, good points you raised there. The best part of it was that &#8220;Cashflow (positive or negative) may make an asset a good investment or a bad investment but it will not turn an asset into a liability.&#8221; </p>
<p>Thanks a lot for sharing your views.</p>
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		<title>By: traineeinvestor</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I respectfully disagree.  Claiming that a house is a liability rather than an asset is 100% rubbish.  Cashflow (positive or negative) may make an asset a good investment or a bad investment but it will not turn an asset into a liability.  The house still has value and can be sold for whatever the market determines it to be worth (whether that is more or less than cost may determine whether it has been a good or bad investment but does not change the fact that it is still an asset).

The use of debt funding (a mortgage) to buy the property does not change the property itself from an asset into a liability.  How can it?

The position can be illustrated very clearly by contrasting the positions of:

1. a person with no assets or liabilities at all; and
2. a person whose only asset consists of a self occupied unencumbered home.

If you beleive that the home is a liability (because you have to pay outgoings) you would have to conclude that person #1 has a higher net worth that person #2 - which is obviously nonsense.

Another way of looking at the issue is to consider other instances where there is negative cash flow associated with an asset - a property development, a business start up, a mine development.  If Kiyosaki is right then all of these are liabilities rather than assets. Again, that would be obviously wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I respectfully disagree.  Claiming that a house is a liability rather than an asset is 100% rubbish.  Cashflow (positive or negative) may make an asset a good investment or a bad investment but it will not turn an asset into a liability.  The house still has value and can be sold for whatever the market determines it to be worth (whether that is more or less than cost may determine whether it has been a good or bad investment but does not change the fact that it is still an asset).</p>
<p>The use of debt funding (a mortgage) to buy the property does not change the property itself from an asset into a liability.  How can it?</p>
<p>The position can be illustrated very clearly by contrasting the positions of:</p>
<p>1. a person with no assets or liabilities at all; and<br />
2. a person whose only asset consists of a self occupied unencumbered home.</p>
<p>If you beleive that the home is a liability (because you have to pay outgoings) you would have to conclude that person #1 has a higher net worth that person #2 &#8211; which is obviously nonsense.</p>
<p>Another way of looking at the issue is to consider other instances where there is negative cash flow associated with an asset &#8211; a property development, a business start up, a mine development.  If Kiyosaki is right then all of these are liabilities rather than assets. Again, that would be obviously wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Crisar: Good Point. Thanks for sharing your views to us. 
@ Jayson: Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Crisar: Good Point. Thanks for sharing your views to us.<br />
@ Jayson: Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right! I live in Canada. I migrated here a couple of months ago. Everything that Robert K. says on his book is true. 

P.S. I&#039;m an avid reader of your blog! Keep posting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right! I live in Canada. I migrated here a couple of months ago. Everything that Robert K. says on his book is true. </p>
<p>P.S. I&#8217;m an avid reader of your blog! Keep posting!</p>
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